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It is now possible to kibitz on BBO or to watch vugraph through any device (including several types of mobile phones) that can run a Javascript-enabled web browser.
Click the following link for more information about how this works:
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If you have any comments or suggestions or if you would like to report a bug, please post to this thread. You can also send me an e-mail if you prefer: fred@bridgebase.com
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Posted 2009-April-28, 08:45
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Posted 2009-April-28, 09:33
I'm having the same problem I've had with the handviewer program in the past.
I have a blackberry pearl 8100.
When I go to the page I see 6 buttons at the top of my screen (Shuffle, Rewind, Previous, Next, Options, GIB) and the BBO symbol, then blank screen below that.
I know that on my normal computer the hands usually display above these buttons.
I have java enabled on my phone.
I have a blackberry pearl 8100.
When I go to the page I see 6 buttons at the top of my screen (Shuffle, Rewind, Previous, Next, Options, GIB) and the BBO symbol, then blank screen below that.
I know that on my normal computer the hands usually display above these buttons.
I have java enabled on my phone.
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Posted 2009-April-28, 09:45
kfay, on Apr 28 2009, 03:33 PM, said:
I have java enabled on my phone.
Do you have Javascript enabled? That is something very different from having Java enabled.
The symptoms suggest that the Javascript program is not starting (which suggests that either your browser does not support Javascript or that Javascript is not enabled).
A quick web search suggests that Javascript is disabled by default and that you can enable it through Menu, Options. Not sure if the source this came from is reliable or not. If that doesn't help then I suggest you do your own web search (I searched for: Blackberry Pearl 8100 Javascript). I am pretty sure it can be done - it is just a question of how to configure your Blackberry.
Hope this helps.
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Posted 2009-April-28, 10:26
Tried kibitzing a random table from the list available using my Nokia E90 (from the UK). Works nicely... 
Any possibility of kibitzing specific tables? (e.g. a known friend is playing but there are no kibs at his table)
Thanks
Any possibility of kibitzing specific tables? (e.g. a known friend is playing but there are no kibs at his table)
Thanks
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Posted 2009-April-28, 11:14
se12sam, on Apr 28 2009, 04:26 PM, said:
Any possibility of kibitzing specific tables? (e.g. a known friend is playing but there are no kibs at his table)
In principle we think we could use this technology to create a program that does just about everything that you can do through one of the existing BBO clients.
However, at this point in time it is very much unclear how far we will go with this and what time frame rates to be involved. I am guessing that you will not see any major developments during the next month or two. Whatever time and effort we put into this project in the near future rates to be dedicated to fixing bugs, making the server end more robust, and improving the interface for mobile devices (where screen size considerations result in a bunch of issues we have never had to face before).
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Posted 2009-April-28, 16:26
This works very well on my iphone, good job!
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Posted 2009-April-28, 19:01
you're in a lot of trouble now. Already my wife complains I waste too much time playing with my iPhone.
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Posted 2009-April-28, 20:25
How about a table with GIB in all 4 seats for viewing purpose?
or
Watch 3 seats GIB and a player who rents and plays that in one seat.
Some can learn bidding by GIB, because bids are annotated.
Some can learn play from GIB.
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Watch 3 seats GIB and a player who rents and plays that in one seat.
Some can learn bidding by GIB, because bids are annotated.
Some can learn play from GIB.
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Posted 2009-April-30, 06:47
if I click on one player, I will kib only him. How do I go back to kibbing everybody?
... and I can prove it with my usual, flawless logic.
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Posted 2009-April-30, 07:19
gwnn, on Apr 30 2009, 12:47 PM, said:
if I click on one player, I will kib only him. How do I go back to kibbing everybody?
Click the name of the player you are kibitzing to show all 4 hands again.
I suspect that eventually this will be controlled through the Options button. Sorry that the current method is not obvious.
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Posted 2009-April-30, 08:12
I think it's obvious enough that you don't need to change it. I'm just dumb.
... and I can prove it with my usual, flawless logic.
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Posted 2009-April-30, 09:58
Wonderful tool, Fred!
Is there a way to get names/profiles of the players?
I also was confused on how to get back to "view all" - of course, since I got into "kibitz one" mode by touching to avoid lock and didn't know where I had touched (at least the first time). Bailout the same way makes sense, but I just tried everything else (click the table, click the auction, click the play area,...
Is there a way to get names/profiles of the players?
I also was confused on how to get back to "view all" - of course, since I got into "kibitz one" mode by touching to avoid lock and didn't know where I had touched (at least the first time). Bailout the same way makes sense, but I just tried everything else (click the table, click the auction, click the play area,...
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Posted 2009-May-01, 08:24
I have a Blackberry Storm. "Support JavaScript" is enabled in the browser configuration. When I click on a table from the "Interesting Tables" screen, the result in a blank white screen in the browser.
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Posted 2009-May-01, 10:08
markleon, on May 1 2009, 09:24 AM, said:
I have a Blackberry Storm. "Support JavaScript" is enabled in the browser configuration. When I click on a table from the "Interesting Tables" screen, the result in a blank white screen in the browser.
Same for me on a Kyocera TNT.
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Posted 2009-May-01, 12:17
barmar, on May 1 2009, 08:08 AM, said:
markleon, on May 1 2009, 09:24 AM, said:
I have a Blackberry Storm. "Support JavaScript" is enabled in the browser configuration. When I click on a table from the "Interesting Tables" screen, the result in a blank white screen in the browser.
Same for me on a Kyocera TNT.
Same for me, which is a shame as it's something I would definitely enjoy viewing. If anyone finds a fix, please let us know!
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Posted 2009-May-01, 12:35
Sorry for those of you who are seeing white screens. I have no idea what is going on. If the problem is with our software it may not be easy for me to figure this out unless I go and get a Blackberry of my own. Since I am one of those weird people who have never had a cellphone before, I am not exactly inclined to do this
Not sure what to suggest, but maybe I will put together a trivial Javascript application and post a link so that some of you can try it. My instinct suggests that it is not our application that is the source of the problem and perhaps a test like this will confirm whether or not my instinct is correct.
Have any of you tried Handviewer on your phones? If yes, does it work?
Probably I won't have a chance to do anything on this front until next week. Sorry for the inconvenience.
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Not sure what to suggest, but maybe I will put together a trivial Javascript application and post a link so that some of you can try it. My instinct suggests that it is not our application that is the source of the problem and perhaps a test like this will confirm whether or not my instinct is correct.
Have any of you tried Handviewer on your phones? If yes, does it work?
Probably I won't have a chance to do anything on this front until next week. Sorry for the inconvenience.
Fred Gitelman
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Posted 2009-May-01, 12:58
This is excellent -- the ability to bypass the firewall at work makes it especially nice.
Now if only we could add a few buttons that allow us to bid and play
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Now if only we could add a few buttons that allow us to bid and play
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Posted 2009-May-01, 16:10
I modified the application so that it will try to detect whether or not Javascript really is enabled and display a message (instead of a blank white page) if it is disabled.
If any of you who had the white screen problem feels inclined to try again and let me know if you see this message, I would appreciate it. I don't think you will need to clear your browser's cache, but if you know how to do this then it can only help to do this before you try again.
By the way, I believe you when you say that you have set things up so that Javascript should be enabled, but for some browsers running on some mobile devices it appears there may be more to it than that.
Thanks,
Fred Gitelman
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If any of you who had the white screen problem feels inclined to try again and let me know if you see this message, I would appreciate it. I don't think you will need to clear your browser's cache, but if you know how to do this then it can only help to do this before you try again.
By the way, I believe you when you say that you have set things up so that Javascript should be enabled, but for some browsers running on some mobile devices it appears there may be more to it than that.
Thanks,
Fred Gitelman
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Posted 2009-May-01, 17:04
I know this isn't conclusive, but I tried again and still had a blank white screen (i.e. no message). I know that isn't too helpful, but it's what occurred. Note that before I tried I went into the options and under "Cache Operations" I clicked on "Clear History". It erased my browser history.
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Posted 2009-May-01, 17:45
Thanks for letting me know. I will see if I can figure it out next week.
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