If the bidding starts (1♥) 2♥ (3♥) where the 3♥ is a pre-emptive raise, what are the meanings of 4th hands bids (eg X, 3NT, 4m, 4♥ etc)
Similarly, if the bidding starts (1♥) 2♥ (2NT) where 2NT is high card raise to at least 3♥ based on 4 trumps, what do 4th hand's bids mean (eg X, 3m, 3♥, 3NT, or Pass followed by bidding on the next round).
Any differences if the opening and cue bid are in ♠?
Eric
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Michaels cue bids follow ups When 3rd hand doesn't pass
#2
Posted 2004-November-17, 18:02
EricK, on Nov 17 2004, 07:28 PM, said:
If the bidding starts (1♥) 2♥ (3♥) where the 3♥ is a pre-emptive raise, what are the meanings of 4th hands bids (eg X, 3NT, 4m, 4♥ etc)
(1H)-2H-(3H)-?
- DBL = gotcha
- 3♠ = non-forcing. Michaels bidder with monster can bid again
- 3NT = to play
- 4♣ = pass/correct to your minor... overcaller wiht monster can bid more
- 4♦ odd pass/correct... opener can pass only if diamonds is his minor... with club, this is GF
- 4♥ = cue bid forcing
- 4♠ to play
- 5♣ = pass correct of overcaller minor
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Similarly, if the bidding starts (1♥) 2♥ (2NT) where 2NT is high card raise to at least 3♥ based on 4 trumps, what do 4th hand's bids mean (eg X, 3m, 3♥, 3NT, or Pass followed by bidding on the next round).
(1H)-2H-(2NT)-?
- Pass = ok, i got nothing
- DBL =
- 3♣/3♦ = lead director* may have spade support or support for other minor
- 3♥ = game try despite their value showing bid
- 3♠ = non-forcing
- 3NT = suggesting sacrafice in 5 of openers minor or 4♠
- 4♣ = pass/correct to your minor... not suggesting save
- 4♦ odd pass/correct... opener can pass only if diamonds is his minor... with club, he has to bid on.
- 4♥ = ask partner to bid 4♠
- 4♠ to play
- 5♣ = pass correct of overcaller minor
--Ben--
#3
Posted 2004-November-17, 18:18
(1H)-2H-(3H)-?
DBL = gotcha
3♠ = non-forcing. Michaels bidder with monster can bid again
3NT = to play
4♣ = pass/correct to your minor... overcaller wiht monster can bid more
4♦ odd pass/correct... opener can pass only if diamonds is his minor... with club, this is GF
4♥ = cue bid forcing
4♠ to play
5♣ = pass correct of overcaller minor
I agree with all of these apart from 3N. Do you really want to play 3NT after an opening and raise? 4S is a weaker raise and 3N is a good raise to 4.
DBL = gotcha
3♠ = non-forcing. Michaels bidder with monster can bid again
3NT = to play
4♣ = pass/correct to your minor... overcaller wiht monster can bid more
4♦ odd pass/correct... opener can pass only if diamonds is his minor... with club, this is GF
4♥ = cue bid forcing
4♠ to play
5♣ = pass correct of overcaller minor
I agree with all of these apart from 3N. Do you really want to play 3NT after an opening and raise? 4S is a weaker raise and 3N is a good raise to 4.
"The King of Hearts a broadsword bears, the Queen of Hearts a rose." W. H. Auden.
#4
Posted 2004-November-17, 18:28
You gonna let them talk you out of 3NT opposite all michaels cue-bids by the simple raise of their suit? I separate strong and weak raise with 4♥ cue-bid
--Ben--
#5
Posted 2004-November-17, 18:36
There are not really many hands I can construct where 3N is going to be the right contract, Ben.
Maybe this is one:
x
Axx
AKQJxxx
Qxx
But how likely is this?
Maybe this is one:
x
Axx
AKQJxxx
Qxx
But how likely is this?
"The King of Hearts a broadsword bears, the Queen of Hearts a rose." W. H. Auden.
#6
Posted 2004-November-17, 18:59
The_Hog, on Nov 17 2004, 07:36 PM, said:
There are not really many hands I can construct where 3N is going to be the right contract, Ben.
Maybe this is one:
x
Axx
AKQJxxx
Qxx
But how likely is this?
Maybe this is one:
x
Axx
AKQJxxx
Qxx
But how likely is this?
This is NOT the one. Holding this, I would try a slam.
3NT should guarantees 2 stoppers in ♠, 2-4-3-3 (or something like this) and honors in both minors.
Senshu
#7 Guest_Jlall_*
Posted 2004-November-17, 19:12
ben i think 5C should be to play and 4N should be bid your minor.
#8
Posted 2004-November-17, 19:21
Jlall, on Nov 17 2004, 08:12 PM, said:
ben i think 5C should be to play and 4N should be bid your minor.
good catch.
Senshu
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