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Michaels cue bids follow ups When 3rd hand doesn't pass

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Posted 2004-November-17, 17:28

If the bidding starts (1) 2 (3) where the 3 is a pre-emptive raise, what are the meanings of 4th hands bids (eg X, 3NT, 4m, 4 etc)

Similarly, if the bidding starts (1) 2 (2NT) where 2NT is high card raise to at least 3 based on 4 trumps, what do 4th hand's bids mean (eg X, 3m, 3, 3NT, or Pass followed by bidding on the next round).

Any differences if the opening and cue bid are in ?

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Posted 2004-November-17, 18:02

EricK, on Nov 17 2004, 07:28 PM, said:

If the bidding starts (1) 2 (3) where the 3 is a pre-emptive raise, what are the meanings of 4th hands bids (eg X, 3NT, 4m, 4 etc)


(1H)-2H-(3H)-?
  • DBL = gotcha

  • 3 = non-forcing. Michaels bidder with monster can bid again

  • 3NT = to play

  • 4 = pass/correct to your minor... overcaller wiht monster can bid more

  • 4 odd pass/correct... opener can pass only if diamonds is his minor... with club, this is GF

  • 4 = cue bid forcing

  • 4 to play

  • 5 = pass correct of overcaller minor



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Similarly, if the bidding starts (1) 2 (2NT) where 2NT is high card raise to at least 3 based on 4 trumps, what do 4th hand's bids mean (eg X, 3m, 3, 3NT, or Pass followed by bidding on the next round).


(1H)-2H-(2NT)-?
  • Pass = ok, i got nothing
  • DBL =
  • 3/3 = lead director* may have spade support or support for other minor
  • 3 = game try despite their value showing bid
  • 3 = non-forcing
  • 3NT = suggesting sacrafice in 5 of openers minor or 4
  • 4 = pass/correct to your minor... not suggesting save
  • 4 odd pass/correct... opener can pass only if diamonds is his minor... with club, he has to bid on.
  • 4 = ask partner to bid 4
  • 4 to play
  • 5 = pass correct of overcaller minor

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Posted 2004-November-17, 18:18

(1H)-2H-(3H)-?



DBL = gotcha

3♠ = non-forcing. Michaels bidder with monster can bid again

3NT = to play

4♣ = pass/correct to your minor... overcaller wiht monster can bid more

4♦ odd pass/correct... opener can pass only if diamonds is his minor... with club, this is GF

4♥ = cue bid forcing

4♠ to play

5♣ = pass correct of overcaller minor

I agree with all of these apart from 3N. Do you really want to play 3NT after an opening and raise? 4S is a weaker raise and 3N is a good raise to 4.
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Posted 2004-November-17, 18:28

You gonna let them talk you out of 3NT opposite all michaels cue-bids by the simple raise of their suit? I separate strong and weak raise with 4 cue-bid
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Posted 2004-November-17, 18:36

There are not really many hands I can construct where 3N is going to be the right contract, Ben.
Maybe this is one:
x
Axx
AKQJxxx
Qxx

But how likely is this?
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Posted 2004-November-17, 18:59

The_Hog, on Nov 17 2004, 07:36 PM, said:

There are not really many hands I can construct where 3N is going to be the right contract, Ben.
Maybe this is one:
x
Axx
AKQJxxx
Qxx

But how likely is this?

This is NOT the one. Holding this, I would try a slam.

3NT should guarantees 2 stoppers in , 2-4-3-3 (or something like this) and honors in both minors.
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Posted 2004-November-17, 19:12

ben i think 5C should be to play and 4N should be bid your minor.
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Posted 2004-November-17, 19:21

Jlall, on Nov 17 2004, 08:12 PM, said:

ben i think 5C should be to play and 4N should be bid your minor.

good catch.
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