Does anyone have a full description of "Structured Reverses" ?
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Structured Reverses Do you know?
#2
Posted 2004-October-09, 11:56
I am not entirely sure what you mean by structured reverses, but if it is fairly light reverse (say five card first suit, good 15 or 16 hcp or more value, but not game force), then the following scheme is usually used...
Responder rebids his suit, minimum values and five card suit
Responder rebids 2NT, it is lebehshol transfer to 3C (opener refuses to bid 3C if true game force), and generally 6-9 and whatever suit he is going to rebid
Anything else by responder is 10+ points and game force, including raise of either or opener's initial suits.
Responder rebids his suit, minimum values and five card suit
Responder rebids 2NT, it is lebehshol transfer to 3C (opener refuses to bid 3C if true game force), and generally 6-9 and whatever suit he is going to rebid
Anything else by responder is 10+ points and game force, including raise of either or opener's initial suits.
--Ben--
#3
Posted 2004-October-09, 18:05
mike777, on Oct 9 2004, 05:34 PM, said:
Does anyone have a full description of "Structured Reverses" ?
I do not know secifically thge term "structured" reverse, but in Italy quite a few pairs follow the "Mini-Garozzo" , also included in ambra, which means that an "overjumpshift" by opener shows an unspecified reverse, later clarified after a relay.
E.g (uncontested)
1C:1X
2D = uspecified reverse, 2H asks (do not remember the relay answers)
1D:1X
2H = unspec reverse, 2S asks
etc etc
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#4
Posted 2004-October-10, 08:38
I also don't understand the meaning of this "structured", but here's how I play it:
Reverse from 15+ HCP. Responder has a few options:
2NT = 'moderator', asks about opener's hand
3♣ = relay, asks about stoppers in the 4th suit
All other natural and absolute GF!
2NT is basicly Lebensohl, where reverser will bid 3♣ with a minimum hand, and where we can play at the 3-level after such response. All other bids are with a maximum hand, and usually natural.
After the 3♣ relay, opener will respond as follows:
3♦ = min, no stop
3♥ = min, stop
3♠ = max, no stop
3NT = max, stop
Reverse from 15+ HCP. Responder has a few options:
2NT = 'moderator', asks about opener's hand
3♣ = relay, asks about stoppers in the 4th suit
All other natural and absolute GF!
2NT is basicly Lebensohl, where reverser will bid 3♣ with a minimum hand, and where we can play at the 3-level after such response. All other bids are with a maximum hand, and usually natural.
After the 3♣ relay, opener will respond as follows:
3♦ = min, no stop
3♥ = min, stop
3♠ = max, no stop
3NT = max, stop
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#5
Posted 2004-October-10, 09:03
I first encounterd the term in Bill Root's book Modern Bridge Conventions. For the reverse, opener shows invitational values but may have GF values so the reverse can't be passed. With 6-9, responder rebids his suit if he has five or more cars in it or bids 2N with oly a four card suit. (Some prefer the fourth suit to 2N if it can be bid at the 2 level.) All other bids, including a preference to openres first suit show 10+.
Most 2/1 players use something like this these days. I can remember playing when in Standard American 1D-1S-2H was passable and opener had to jump to 3H with GF values. Of course, this auction is still passable in Precison--a limited opener can't have GF values after a 1/1 without a fit.
Most 2/1 players use something like this these days. I can remember playing when in Standard American 1D-1S-2H was passable and opener had to jump to 3H with GF values. Of course, this auction is still passable in Precison--a limited opener can't have GF values after a 1/1 without a fit.
#6
Posted 2004-October-10, 09:45
i play a structure like free's... for me the reverse shows 16+ points counting distribution (long suits only at this point) so ♠A,Q,T,x,x ♥void ♦K,Q,T,x,x,x ♣A,x would be about 18 playing points and definitely qualify... even if the ♣A was the K i'd reverse
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