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#1 User is offline   bill1157 

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Posted 2009-March-24, 17:45

Scoring: IMP


bidding: 1-P-P-3N
PPP
lead: 3

how do you play this one?
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Posted 2009-March-24, 17:57

A, then A .
Q allows you to finesse the J when south should have four.
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Posted 2009-March-24, 17:58

seems straightforward:
Spoiler

No, I'm not running the J to the K in hopes of stealing a 10th trick, even at MPs.
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Posted 2009-March-24, 17:59

Win the heart with the King, to maintain a lead to dummy in case you need to finesse diamonds.

Play a top diamond to check, just in case diamonds are 4-0. If they are, and you can pick up the Jack, you can cross to the heart Queen, finesse diamonds, and then cash the 9th trick with hearts later.
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Posted 2009-March-24, 18:12

Rob F, on Mar 24 2009, 06:58 PM, said:

seems straightforward:
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No, I'm not running the J to the K in hopes of stealing a 10th trick, even at MPs.

yes, straightforward, but i played quickly and missed the point. It didn't matter, but a little care on hands like this can make a difference.
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Posted 2009-March-24, 18:15

A very instructive hand and very appropriate to the forum. Keep them coming bill!
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Posted 2009-March-24, 18:59

Rob F, on Mar 24 2009, 06:58 PM, said:

seems straightforward:
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No, I'm not running the J to the K in hopes of stealing a 10th trick, even at MPs.

running the !cJ would never be right, even at mp's. Making 3 NT is great, esp since the hand screams for a spade lead (opening leader had !sAKx)
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Posted 2009-March-24, 21:25

I recently got a book called "Fall of the cards" by Donald Parson (it is[was] on sale at baronbarclay). This is a collection of play problems that are "short and snappy" and not complex. Anyway, I noticed this hand from a speedball the other night as one that might qualify.
I am going to keep an eye out for these types of problems. Also, my bidding is a little wacky, so I am also looking to showcase "imaginitive" bidding. If anyone else has a hand like this to share, I would very much like to see it.

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Posted 2009-March-24, 22:13

Here is one which hopefully fits:

Scoring: Rubber

Lead A


West deals and after three passes, you open 1. You finally end up in 4.

West leads A (opps lead A from AK) and then Q and shifts to J. Plan the play.
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Posted 2009-March-25, 06:27

Spoiler

Still decidedly intermediate - don't take my guesses as authoritative.

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Posted 2009-March-25, 06:28

Wow. Lawrence's How to Read Your Opponent's Cards has influenced me more than I thought it had. I'm pretty sure I would have struggled with that hand 6 months ago.
Still decidedly intermediate - don't take my guesses as authoritative.

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Posted 2009-March-25, 07:04

vuroth, on Mar 25 2009, 12:28 PM, said:

Wow. Lawrence's How to Read Your Opponent's Cards has influenced me more than I thought it had. I'm pretty sure I would have struggled with that hand 6 months ago.

The biggest thing you learn now from seeing that hand is that West should not have played the queen of diamonds at trick two. If he had played AK of diamonds and stiched to a heart your life would be much harder.
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Posted 2009-March-25, 07:32

FrancesHinden, on Mar 25 2009, 08:04 AM, said:

vuroth, on Mar 25 2009, 12:28 PM, said:

Wow.  Lawrence's How to Read Your Opponent's Cards has influenced me more than I thought it had.  I'm pretty sure I would have struggled with that hand 6 months ago.

The biggest thing you learn now from seeing that hand is that West should not have played the queen of diamonds at trick two. If he had played AK of diamonds and stiched to a heart your life would be much harder.

Yeah, I was thinking that was an odd play. Partner didn't really need that piece of information, but declarer sure did!
Still decidedly intermediate - don't take my guesses as authoritative.

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Posted 2009-March-25, 09:47

vuroth, on Mar 25 2009, 07:27 AM, said:

Spoiler

You mean RHO, don't you?

In hearts, covering is probably better technically, but I think there is no practical difference.
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Posted 2009-March-25, 10:00

Sorry, yes, RHO.
Still decidedly intermediate - don't take my guesses as authoritative.

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Posted 2009-March-25, 10:17

FrancesHinden, on Mar 25 2009, 05:04 AM, said:

vuroth, on Mar 25 2009, 12:28 PM, said:

Wow.  Lawrence's How to Read Your Opponent's Cards has influenced me more than I thought it had.  I'm pretty sure I would have struggled with that hand 6 months ago.

The biggest thing you learn now from seeing that hand is that West should not have played the queen of diamonds at trick two. If he had played AK of diamonds and stiched to a heart your life would be much harder.

Unless West was missing the K after all and had Kx in spades.

But obviously we will never play him for that and just say "you got me."
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Posted 2009-March-25, 10:50

Echognome, on Mar 25 2009, 11:17 AM, said:

FrancesHinden, on Mar 25 2009, 05:04 AM, said:

vuroth, on Mar 25 2009, 12:28 PM, said:

Wow.  Lawrence's How to Read Your Opponent's Cards has influenced me more than I thought it had.  I'm pretty sure I would have struggled with that hand 6 months ago.

The biggest thing you learn now from seeing that hand is that West should not have played the queen of diamonds at trick two. If he had played AK of diamonds and stiched to a heart your life would be much harder.

Unless West was missing the K after all and had Kx in spades.

But obviously we will never play him for that and just say "you got me."

Smile and say "nice defense"!
Still decidedly intermediate - don't take my guesses as authoritative.

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rule number 1 in efficient forum reading:
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Posted 2009-March-25, 13:27

Trumpace, on Mar 24 2009, 11:13 PM, said:

Here is one which hopefully fits:

Scoring: Rubber

Lead A


West deals and after three passes, you open 1. You finally end up in 4.

West leads A (opps lead A from AK) and then Q and shifts to J. Plan the play.

Thats a nice problem...i think you could teach an awful lot about bridge with a series of such problems in quiz format.

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