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We had a disaster on this auction recently and I have been pondering it for a while.
What in your opinion is the best use of double?
These options occur to me:
1. Takeout for the two unbid suits
2. Takeout of opener's suit - catering to responder psyching
3. Penalties - also catering to a psyche
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What is the best use of Double (3x) P (3y) Dbl
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Posted 2006-December-04, 01:55
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I believe that the USA currently hold only the World Championship For People Who Still Bid Like Your Auntie Gladys - dburn
dunno how to play 4 card majors - JLOGIC
True but I know Standard American and what better reason could I have for playing Precision? - Hideous Hog
Bidding is an estimation of probabilities SJ Simon
I believe that the USA currently hold only the World Championship For People Who Still Bid Like Your Auntie Gladys - dburn
dunno how to play 4 card majors - JLOGIC
True but I know Standard American and what better reason could I have for playing Precision? - Hideous Hog
Bidding is an estimation of probabilities SJ Simon
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Posted 2006-December-04, 03:00
imo, second variant ("Takeout of opener's suit - catering to responder psyching").
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Posted 2006-December-04, 03:18
I play 2. takeout of opener's suit. I also play 4y as natural.
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Posted 2006-December-04, 06:36
Another vote for 2.
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Posted 2006-December-04, 07:04
I normally pass but if I double it will be for option 4 - all purposes option based on values. Double is often leading to disasters and I try to avoid bids with no clear or natural description.
This means if takeout in minors I instead bid 4NT. If takeout in M+m I bid 5+cards suit.
This means if takeout in minors I instead bid 4NT. If takeout in M+m I bid 5+cards suit.
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Posted 2006-December-04, 07:45
I'm with Frances. It's quite common for RHO to baby psyche (usually a major) when he has a fit for the x suit, so double is take-out of x and 4y is natural.
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Posted 2006-December-04, 10:55
Jlall, on Dec 4 2006, 10:54 AM, said:
agree with frances/roland.
ditto
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Posted 2006-December-04, 10:58
Also interesting is what is the best use of 3m p 4M X. Now you dont really want to have to bid 5M natural but the takeout X could be useful... I've seen this psyche about 3 times though and it's always worked well because they couldnt X for penalty.
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Posted 2006-December-04, 11:11
Yes, but they also have their 4M bid naturally more often and you are more likely to want to do a t/o double of 4M. The sequence is so rare that I don't know what's best.
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Posted 2006-December-04, 11:23
FrancesHinden, on Dec 4 2006, 01:11 PM, said:
Yes, but they also have their 4M bid naturally more often and you are more likely to want to do a t/o double of 4M. The sequence is so rare that I don't know what's best.
4M was a psych at both the only two times I have seen this sequence.
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